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Crash with windows XP

By: rekha singh | 06 Apr 2010 4:36 pm

There was a crash on my computer this morning and one suggestion is hardware problems. Can using hardware on windows 7 laptop and then connected to XP PC cause this problem? As I have not installed any new hardware other than plugging in the hardware that was already on the computer but I did install the hardware so the new laptop could use it.

IF so that will be a problem till I change my PC to win 7.

Will be using the laptop for a while to learn in before switching over the PC.
 

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The drivers loaded for Win 7 on its HD will not work on XP so while you can now use 7 you cannot swap hardware between the two versions. 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

Do you mean plug and play like an external hard drive, memory stick, USB camera reader or camera maybe?

And which hardware did you actually install on the laptop?
 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

Any hardware like a printer needs a driver.

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010
As I understand it, you attached some type of hardware to the laptop that uses Windows 7.  You then removed that hardware from the laptop and attached it to the PC that uses Windows XP.  At that point the PC crashed.
 
Is it possible that the hardware you are referring to is some type of memory device, like an external hard drive or memory stick?  It would help if you identify the hardware.  If it was a memory device then before removing it from the laptop did you stop the use of it in Windows 7 or shut down the laptop before you removed it?  If you just unplug such devices then the operations being processed on it by the laptop may not have been complete when you unplugged the hardware and that could corrupt the data on a memory device.  The device might then not be able to be used on the PC.
 
Have you tried connecting the hardware back to the laptop to see if it still works there?
 
By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

 I have different drivers for the hardware on both PC and laptop

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

The PC scanner was already installed on the PC but then I switched it over to make sure it would work with the laptop as well, then when I repluged it into the PC then I had problems, though might have been better to reboot or plugged it in later?
 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

It was linked to laptop where I installed win 7 to get it going as the laptop is my PC back up so I like to have it up and ready to take over (have external hard drive that I sink with the documents so switching it over is pretty quick.
 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

No I did not move it back to the laptop, I did not know I had to shut down the laptop to remove the hardware. Seems I have been doing that wrong for years!!!
 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

The scanner works OK on both but it might be the problem with the slow up of the computer (often freezing for a little while though)
 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

You cannot just plug it into a ready loaded computer because the drivers and the link has to be loaded into memory

Plug it in before reboot.

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

 Yes it OK to move hardware but always shut down in the normal Start button way first. 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

As I said elsewhere your computer is given a hard time searching for the right driver with this swapping around.

May I suggest you look into KVM switches for your setup.

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

Actually, something like this would be more appropriate than a kvm, but a kvm is in the right ballpark of thoughts...These are USB hub sharing deices
http://www.google. com/search? q=usb+device+ share&sourceid= ie7&rls=com. microsoft: en-US&ie= utf8&oe=utf8
Or
http://tinyurl. com/yenzk3b
 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

I was using a USB cable to hook them together (not at the same time) the laptop is my back up for the PC so I do not usually use it to but have it at the ready.

Also the laptop in this instance is getting me ready to switch over my PC to win 7. So I now know that I can use my brother's label printer and it will work and the other peripherals (scanner and colour laser printer)

Yesterday my computer gave me a new message of a corrupt file at opening so I lost my personal set up. I tried restarting and that seems to have righted itself, though it does make me wonder if I am again having a corrupt hard drive (had this years ago and lost a lot of stuff as I tend to back up
to an external hard drive (when you back up corrupt things there is no getting them back) I only do DVD back up once a month as the syncing the external hard drive is fast. But it does have some problems like when there is a corrupt file.

I am not happy with the inability of the defragging to do that section on the hard drive.

I will try another program to see if the problem is the defragging program or the actually hard drive (would explain a lot of things)

Still some slowdowns once in a while but the CPU is on the high side when it is doing it now (though not much is going on to cause this I would think.

Soon I will be switching to win 7 once the laptop is finished with my updating it.

Need to find some time to get that done this week (have had a cold so was not in the mood to tackle it)
 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

I use a laptop on a wireless link to my BT router and can use the combination printer scanner that is attached to my Desktop, which is what you may be doing with your brother.

USB cable links are not always very good.

Corrupt files can happen but should not be a constant feature or their is a real problem

Win 7 will be a better experience.

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010
Well just back on now using laptop the PC is in for repairs (got corrupt file notice with my Kaspersky anti virus and just after got hit with several viruses and security said I had not virus program (even though icon was
there and I updated it right away but did not work :o((
 
So this might as well be the time to update to win 7 in anycase and get a new C drive that I suspected was damaged (was just going to do that checking when I had the virus attack.
 
So now finishing the updating of my laptop and having to upgrade some of my programs (my favourite shortkeys auto correct) for instance needs to switch to version 3 (fortunately it is free for the laptop as I bought it just in august of 2009) I got that when Microsoft stoped having auto correct in Outlook and tried to force using word (but then one lost signatures when one switched) so got shortkeys also works filling forms on line and some other programs I use so has been very handy and worth the upgrade when I get my PC
back as well.
 
So my crashing with XP is solved and now onto learning win 7.

 

By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

Hi

 
While you may wish to do that hardware upgrade the virus problems would only need a format on your current drive and reinstall.
 
A new hard drive would set you up for the future and Win7 would be my choice
 
 
Not sure what you mean by that short keys reference?
 
I use both Word and Outlook 2007 and both have auto correct.
 
Filling forms on line I use Roboform from www.roboform. com
 
Most program s I find do work on Win 7 but there are a few that need an upgrade or new version.
 
By: rekha singh | 07 Apr 2010

My USB device is not working.

 
USB devices are Plug and Play devices, so there is little that you can do to control or configure them. Windows usually detects devices when they're plugged in and, if necessary, installs drivers.
If your USB does not work after you plug it in, it's probably because of one of the following causes:
Windows can't find a driver for the USB device. When hardware attached to a computer doesn't work properly, it's often because of a driver problem. When you plug in a USB device, Windows automatically identifies the device and searches for a driver.
In most cases, Windows already has the necessary driver installed or can automatically download it from Windows Update. If Windows installs a device driver automatically, you'll see a notification indicating the device is ready to use.
If Windows can't find the driver you need, it will prompt you to insert the disc containing the driver that came with your device.
Occasionally you might have a USB device that did not come with a disc containing a driver and for which Windows cannot find a driver. In this case, you can look for a driver on the device manufacturer' s website. You can often download drivers from the support section of such sites. If you are unable to find a driver there, try contacting the manufacturer.
If you are unsure of how to contact the manufacturer, go to the Microsoft Help and Support webpage for a list of contact information for most hardware vendors.
NoteAll of your drivers must be compatible with this version of Windows. Don't download drivers that are listed as compatible with a different version.
Windows doesn't recognize the USB device. Before Windows can find and install a driver for your USB device, it must be able to correctly identify the device.
Occasionally you might have a USB device that Windows doesn't recognize and that did not come with a disc containing a driver. In this case, you can look for a driver on the device manufacturer' s website. You can often download drivers from the support section of such sites. If you are unable to find a driver there, try contacting the manufacturer.
If you are unsure of how to contact the manufacturer, go to the Microsoft Help and Support webpage for a list of contact information for most hardware vendors.
After you find a driver for a device that Windows cannot identify, you will have to install the driver manually. For information about manually installing a driver, see Repair or update a driver.
NoteAll of your drivers must be compatible with this version of Windows. Don't download drivers that are listed as compatible with a different version.
There's a problem with the device. If you have another computer that is working correctly, plug the device into that computer to see if you encounter the same issue. If you have the same problem, there might be a problem with the device.
If you believe your device is faulty, contact the manufacturer.
You can also check the status of your device in Windows.
To check the status of a deviceYou must be logged on as an administrator to perform these steps.
Open Device Manager by clicking the Start button , clicking Control Panel, clicking System and Maintenance, and then clicking Device Manager.� If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
Double-click the appropriate device category, and then look for an entry for the device you are having a problem with.
Right-click the entry for your USB device, and then click Properties.
Click the General tab, and then look in the Device status box to see if it mentions any problems with the device�specifically, a problem with the driver.
If you suspect that a driver you received from the manufacturer is faulty, contact the manufacturer.
The driver for the device is faulty. Occasionally a manufacturer might release a faulty driver for one of its devices.
If you have a device that is not working properly, it can be difficult to tell whether the problem is with the device itself or the driver for the device.
If a device works fine but then fails after you update its driver, the problem is with the new driver. Roll back to the previously installed driver. For instructions, see Restore a driver to its previous version.
If you are installing a device for the first time, you can't roll back its driver, because there is no previously installed driver. But you can try to determine if the driver is faulty.
To check if a driver is faultyYou must be logged on as an administrator to perform these steps.
Open Device Manager by clicking the Start button , clicking Control Panel, clicking System and Maintenance, and then clicking Device Manager.� If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
Double-click the appropriate device category, and then look for an entry for the device you are having a problem with.
Right-click the entry for your USB device, and then click Properties.
Click the General tab, and then look in the Device status box to see if it mentions any problems with the device�specifically, a problem with the driver.
If you suspect that a driver you received from the manufacturer is faulty, contact the manufacturer.
The USB port is defective. If you connect a USB device to a defective port, the device will not work. Try plugging the device into a different port. If all USB ports are in use, unplug one of the other devices, and plug the problematic device into that port.
If the device is plugged into a secondary USB hub instead of directly into a USB port on your computer, unplug the device from the hub, and then plug the device directly into a port on your computer.
The device isn't getting enough power. USB hubs do not always supply enough power for some devices. The device you are trying to use might require all the available power or bandwidth that your computer can provide. If the device is plugged into a USB hub and not directly into a USB port on your computer, connect the device directly into a USB port on your computer.
You can also leave the device plugged into the USB hub, and unplug other devices in the hub to see if your device works. If this solves the problem, you might want to obtain a USB hub with its own power supply so that you have adequate power for all devices plugged into that hub.
I get a message that a "Hi-speed USB device is plugged into non-hi-speed USB hub."
 
Many USB devices, such as external hard drives and media players, require a high speed USB 2.0 connection to function properly.
How can I tell if my computer has a USB 2.0 port?
 
Many USB devices, such as external hard drives and media players, require a connection to your computer using a USB 2.0 port. USB 2.0 is faster than previous versions, which makes large volume file transfers possible.
To determine if your computer has a USB 2.0 portYou must be logged on as an administrator to perform these steps.
Open Device Manager by clicking the Start button , clicking Control Panel, clicking System and Maintenance, and then clicking Device Manager.� If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
Double-click Universal Serial Bus controllers.
If the word Enhanced is included in any of the listed controllers, your computer has USB 2.0 controller drivers installed.
My USB 2.0 ports don't appear to be working.
 
If your high-speed USB 2.0 ports don't work, you might not have the correct driver installed for the ports in your computer, or the ports might be defective. If you are using an external USB hub plugged into your computer, this might also be defective or lack the proper drivers. Check Device Manager to see if your USB ports or hubs are working properly.
 
1.Open Device Manager by clicking the Start button , clicking Control Panel, clicking System and Maintenance, and then clicking Device Manager.� If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
 
2.Double-click Universal Serial Bus controllers and check to see if all your USB ports, hubs, and controllers are functioning correctly. Any devices not functioning will have a yellow exclamation mark in front of them.
 
3.If Device Manager shows any USB ports, hubs, or controllers are not functioning, check for updated drivers. For more information, see Update a driver for hardware that isn't working properly.
 
And yes the Windows 7 needs different one's to the XP.
 
By: rekha singh | 08 Apr 2010
Hi
What form does the crash take ? Blue Screen - lock up beyond Ctr Alt Del restart. Does the machine run normally or fail to boot after power off restart ?What hardware did you change from XP to Win7
Did you load any new drivers on the XP machine.
 
By: rekha singh | 08 Apr 2010

Lock up but Ctr alt delete did nothing. Restarted it eventually and got it going but some slow up now and again like it is overloaded but CPU is not showing that?? Tried to defrag and some sections would not defrag (photo??? Not sure why that is) some disc problem?

It was a scanner that I moved over to check it would work with win 7 (now have the two printers I use as well)
 

By: rekha singh | 08 Apr 2010

I think you may have clashing drivers that slow things down as the computer boots up.

Best to check all hardware drivers now and uninstall and reinstall if there it a problem

May I suggest you download a better defrag tool like the free one from www
auslogics.com

Two printers are OK if you load their respective drivers and software.

By: rekha singh | 08 Apr 2010

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